Also, there is the myth where if you kill hades after “Your sand of time is running out” and after everyone get hades gear. Ever! Click to Jump to Hades Gear: Balance | Death | Fire | Ice | Life | Myth | Storm | Wands | Amulets. I guess I’ll just make my way to Morganthe and farm her, just as a way to pass time when I don’t feel like questing with any of my other characters. Here we’ll point out some of the most common misconceptions that leave players banging their head on the keyboard in frustration. But really it is not hard to get hades gear. Yes, but it’s not far from worth spending your time farming. There’s crafted gear and crowns gear with more Critical at this point, so you gain very little, or even lose some stats by sticking with the Hades gear. I have a storm a d fire wiz I want to be “glass Canon’s” soooooo ya. If you're using an ice to farm Zeus, all the Zeus gear you get will be ice. I stop farming for gear a couple of weeks ago. I’ll craft them when I can. Great article. It costs REAL LIFE TIME, which is about the most important currency in the world. …However, said legendary Death does not pvp. And there’s far more out there. If you’re not building a “glass cannon” wizard with as much Critical and Armor Piercing as possible, don’t use this wand! I can relate to what you stated in this article. The only annoying thing was Alpha Omega Ring. – you have no DoT, they have angel and frostbite It’s an illusion that’s driving away players. The rest of the Hades gear falls into two sets: Offensive and Defensive. If you are on a personal connection, like at home, you can run an anti-virus scan on your device to make sure it is not infected with malware. there’s nothing more I NEED. I think Tartarus is the first dungeon where I finally said “ENOUGH!” and stopped farming. It’s just dumb. I hatch pets all the time: it takes time to make a perfect max-stat mega pet, but when you finally get it, it’s wonderful. The stat boosts it offers are small, and so many other amulets offer more interesting benefits. I think that the Unseen boots is one good upgrade of WW boots. Any gear I use in a guide is a personal choice on my part. I got all my gear from hades within 15 runs. Anyway, i agree the ww gear is still viable. Like with the Waterworks dungeon, you will only get Hades drops (including from his chest) for your wizard's school. Lol. My friend here is trying to be “op” (over powered) by being a try hard to getting all the hades gear and amulet of divine. This is which also bothering with me a lot. I rather farm that then hades…. don’t pvp with the school designs (well unless you use an off-school one). Many players are being frustrated by this misconception. I agree with the thought of morganthes ring athame and amulet are over rated Cronus athame and ring are a much better way of spending your time as for the amulet dont get your hopes up but It would be amazing to get it whiel hoping for my hades torment gear. Understanding why you farm is the first step in deciding what you should invest your game-time doing. Unless you have some great need for the enhanced Critical and Armor Piercing, crafted robes/boots and your old WW hat generally offer better stats. ^-^. It is just NOT enjoyable at all.). People will always be talking about it, and farming for it. I do these calculations on my own time, and I shouldn’t be imposing my views on others. You wouldn’t write a post to help people not to care about good code, would ya? Don’t take everyone’s word on it!” – because that’s what’s causing 99% of the issues. Her athames have a very low drop rate also, and their only advantage over the Blade of the Felled Titan is like 2% damage. I think this doesn’t apply to me because my luck is too overpowered. Oh heres a tip guys. Sure, full tartarus gear was really a mistake and isn’t where you should start from, but it’s a bit confusing when 2 people who work for a website send out completely contrasting posts right next to eachother. I’ve never pvp-ed at that level, but the central top duelists whose builds I have seen, and the duelist101 top-level guides that I can think of now, typically use farm gear (…erm, I mean gear you can only get through boss farming). Pretty sure it was an accidental double post. While this gear is great for anybody, it's specifically a must-have for wizards of an elemental school, as their gear normally includes accuracy. As for me, i finally got the Unseen hades robe i wanted, gosh i was happy. Theres a difference. Pretty sure this conversation was referring to raw crowns shop sold gear, not packs. I agree. And it’s a big part of what contributes to the frustration of less “hardcore” players who are under the impression they have to spend 400 hours farming for a PvP set up. But the truth is that they don’t need this gear 99% of the time. I can relate to what you stated in this article. And much more importantly. And btw, I have no quests left on all my max level wizards. What Nick points out here is simply that you don’t have to grind for hours on end for the best gear if you don’t want to. Either to get through content, or to compete in PvP. Many people are being driven away from PvP because they simply don’t have time to gear wizards at top level for what they think they need. Mine is a low 202, and it was lower before my Shadow Beast got death assailant. Castle Darkmoor -What is the drop rate of Malistaire's gear? I use masteries on my fire and myth, but I did farm for the divine amulet on my storm: maybe it was a lucky drop but I wouldn’t have given up. Hades may gain an extra Pip or Power Pip at the start of each Round. That is a very personal choice, which depends very much on the amount of free time a person has. You opened my eyes thanks, the hades gear is worst than my WW, hades gear is too fragile XD. I don’t really like how this article was almost a direct attack on the one blaze raven did. “Just compare the stats, people. And that’s especially sad because so much of the gear they’re farming has drawbacks that don’t even make them worth it, or offers such a small stat boost that it’s not even of consequence. These types of comments keep making people think they NEED that gear and get frustrated farming for it. Your play style? but there are HUGE trade offs for storm, myth, and fire. This helps also. And come back. Is that 3% pierce going to win you a match? Unless you really want to boost your Critical stat – there’s no reason to farm these from Tartarus. Well, when this article was published, this was true. Farming is a necessity to be competitive in PvP, and it will make your life a great deal easier in PvE. Always compare it to what else is available, and weigh the benefits against the effort to attain. Going through the same repetitive moves over and over and over and over and over again is very far from my ideas of “game” and “fun”. If you’d notice, my article generally put the crafted robe and boots on low accuracy schools (the exception being Storm), while going Hades Defensive with higher accuracy schools. Unfortunatly, the latter can out live its usefulness fairly quickly. He states that the “best/recommended” gear is not the “needed” gear. losssseeeeerrrrrr. It’s important that people understand this distinction, because I think many do not. i always craft my gear since then, and have better gear with a good pet then farmed..lol…works for me . my pack wand gives 125 crit rating, 10 damage and 5 pierce. But I’m not that high lvl on my storm I’m lvl 36 and I’m farming for Zeus gear and I am doing that because I can’t find the storm vendor in mooshu. The title of this article is a little misleading, its not that people farming are doing it wrong, they just may be doing it for the wrong reasons. We’ll continue to point out the strongest builds in the game, but we want users to be educated enough to make the decision to go for it or not on their own. You don’t need it to cut your teeth, or even to make warlord. This is a good point but I am all for the “flashy” gear, I’ll spend hours farming whether I wan too or not, I like to put lots of effort into my wizards an I wan the gear to prove it, but if you aren’t like me an don have time, patience, ext. Unm im pretty sure that 45 block on the amulet will save me , i would be satisfied with the cronus athame, IF he dropped it! Maybe she’ll do the farming when she has a higher level, so the dungeon will go by faster. If you had spoken to anyone else on the site that way, I would have simply deleted the comment. Rattlebones Ultra Dungeon Drops The drops from Rattlebone’s Ultra Dungeon are plentiful, they’re good, they’re powerful, and there is a BUNCH of stuff to get! Also, especially if you have good block from other pieces of gear (e.g. Many of his articles from Duelist101 have made it the Final Bastion, a testament to how useful they have been! Someone actually agrees with me! – bazaar Phew. Those are the sets I'm referring to. The second group of players are just trying to get the gear they need. This is kind of spam since all you added was *Thumbs up* please use the Reply button on you old post to follow up with what you wanted to add . on top of that it has as much universal resist as ww robe. So I’m wondering whether one could truly be competitive in high level + high rank pvp / central tournaments without Hades and Morganthe gear. Lately my friend has been stress from farming bosses and morganthe complaining that they don’t get anything from them and keep saying miserable stuff like “I hate this game!” and “I’m gonna quit this game!”. Same as the athames. (A major thing I use is the formula you guys devised for Critical and Critical Block.) I’m still a farmer so this is kinda rude but t did warn me so that’s what I get for reading it all. If you like it, that’s fine, but not aiming for the best and lowering your standards is bad and I even find it dangerous. Plus, I think they’re forgetting that it isn’t JUST for PvP, spending time trying to get the Hades gear will help you farm for other things ALLOT faster. Most of the crafted ones lack Universal Resist, and the Hades ones lack accuracy. His article is saying that if you can’t get this, there’s not a huge difference if you use this. Hyper offensive playstyle is kind of defensive: you’re hitting so hard your opponent has to heal off the damage instead of hitting you. It would be confusing for someone new to this website to see a guide telling them to do something, and then another guide telling them not to do it. Just a quick question. Also, storm disadvantage is that hades wand have their own storm card spell. No regrets. I learned a lot from the facts , Does someone know if my business can find a fillable DD 1750 example to type on ? ; If any Wizard is defeated, Hades will cast a 1,890 Healing over 3 Rounds to all allies. Get Waterworks Gear at Level 60. It changes with each new content release, so the guides grow inaccurate quickly. These are the possible ways to obtain your gear: – farming I feel as if this gear combinations can suit my needs, but that’s just me. Besides that and block which is even worse my over all resist and death damage is high, 91+ death an 33+ to all other schools, resist for all schools is 34 but block is only 73. You know the difference and have weighed your options. Get Hades gear and farm fast for the rest of your wizarding career OR you could just farm slowly and not bother to get Hades. it is all about luck. I often have to remind myself or be reminded it isn’t necessary. Great article. You know you fall into group 1 who WANTS this stuff, but can survive without it. The problem is that many people are doing it wrong. kicks, but don’t grind at it to the point of it becoming work. Sure that one piece of gear won’t make any difference. Why? rating means nothing compared to % . If you’re a low-accuracy school, this gear has almost no accuracy. - Hades will cast Impending Doom on a random Wizard.. If not, oh well. I added a picture of the gear I speak of, you can safely call me obsessed XD. pack wands such as misty mountain mandolin or tiki frosty stare staff. Many players have finished the game and earned impressive records using less than “perfect” gear. *Thumbs up*, Um. The hades defensive hat for fire is pretty bad. As a storm I like having a good amount of defense and my current gear gives good accuracy, defence and attack. So are you saying that the hades gear isn’t the best gear to use at top level pvp? I think what I’m trying to say here is.. My article was NOT intended to be a “You must farm this as your gear, nothing else. One is an upgrade to Waterworks gear and the other takes a more offensive stance. / / / Darkmoor Gear Drop Guide | Wizard101 June 26, 2019 Guides, Wizard101. This article clearly explains why you have no good pet and use the same old horrible beetle with fake 15 resist, no decent heal and two mc blades. This does take me back to the Wish List article. There’s no accounting for bad luck with the drops, but Cronus is the easiest farm for an athame that good, so if it’s going to take a lot of tries I’d continue doing them at the fastest place to kill. The WW hat is still one of the best in the game. If you’d rather be in the arena than farming, go for it! In the same vein, I wouldn’t encourage someone to spend months learning a new framework and templating language to build their own CMS when all they need is a blog. Unless you’re trying to be a glass cannon, this is not for you. you know you’re facing a balance and your Poseidon’s Waterskimmers cover your block needs), the 21% Critical at level 100 is awesome – even if it is SLIGHTLY edged out by the Shocking Truth Tiki Torch (assuming it gives 115 critical) at that level. – packs That’s great if it makes you happy. And since I don’t use a high crit wand, the critical on it is useless to me, and the power pips and pierce don’t make a big difference. For every other school I use a first gen Mega Sea Dragon with Proof, Pain-giver, Spritely, Pierce train and Health gift. You don’t need this amulet. I sometimes enjoy farming, especially with friends, but have realized When we got to face hades, (there where only 2 of us) we started giving one job to who is jading and who is attacking. Many people are being driven away from W101 by the farming and drop rates. When my standards for a good pet were lower, I used a pet with whatever card as long as it had proof defy and sprite, and most of the time it was a 9-4 proof defy. This gear is only useful for very specific reasons. Currently, there is a way to get Hades to reappear after the battle a second time. I have hat and robe for senator gear I got the boots and the sky iron hasta. Bronze Gear Total Drop Reports: 3 Wiki-Master Verified Drop Cobalt Total Drop Reports: 2 You don’t set the bar so high that you never even get into the game. But i’ve seriously haven’t even seen ONE single storm player who actually planned on having a balanced stats with critical and block. Here’s an example you can relate to: you don’t really need a clean and well documented code, as long as you can still understand it. I got Morganthe amulet first try, Full darkmoor 4 tries, Terror Hoard Wand 3rd pack, and 6% pierce jewels after maybe 2 hours of farming. Her rings? Its useless. The WW hat is still one of the best in the game. Her athames have a very low drop rate also, and their only advantage over the Blade of the Felled Titan is like 2% damage. The Hades Defensive gear has more to offer, but I suggest thinking long and hard before deciding you need any of it. Seriously. Hades drops two sets of gear for every school. I once blindly thought that full hades gear was the way to go. Otherwise I wouldn’t have said that, lol. Whether boss farming is worthy of their real time or not, that’s for each player to decide. Pirate, I just farmed what, 15 hours and nothing! Let’s talk about the wands first. Might want to meet Julia Lionflower. Just in case anyone thinks there’s truth to this comment, I suppose I’ll point out: I purposely use easier to get gear in the great majority of my guides, because I know people with less game time can’t get the things I have. If you simply compare this new gear to what you already have, you’ll save yourself a great deal of trouble. It means staying alive long enough, breaking shields, saving pips for shrike and owl, or king vs balance. You sound like you enjoy having the best, and don’t mind working hard to get it. 9 times out of 10 when I farm I am forced to do it with people who I don’t know who either leave halfway, do the bosses wrong, or mess up the puzzle. (my balance can get 104 damage with 42 resist), i noticed the crafting gear has been better or comparable to farmed gear way back when wintertusk came out. Amulet of Divine Influence, I must have it! https://finalbastion.com/wizard101-guides/w101-farming-guides/farming-etiquette-101/. I want to make this very clear: If you’re one of these players, this article is not for you. They understand that they don’t need this gear, but they want it. Is 245 block enough in this age of PvP? I don’t know, I just can’t imagine myself doing Tartarus over and over again. Usually, if I have nothing to do, I either farm or craft. Please enable Cookies and reload the page. If you decide to invest it in this game fine, but don’t kid yourself that you’re paying nothing when farming, just because you don’t buy crowns. The longest I ever farmed so far was the Loremaster, and after getting the 5 least useful spells in her book, then about a week-long with no spell drops whatsoever (talk about a dry spell), I simply gave up and moved on. Money comes and goes, time only goes. I know what I need but the drop rates are ridiculous. I’ve been doing 1 round of hades and 2 players left our team. Plus, 9 times out of 10 people farm Tatararus because they have nothing better to do, and they just hope to get the gear but they don’t hardcore farm for it. Like think about it. If you wanted to try something else, Yegvney in The Graveyard has some nice L100 athames.. but the drop rates are low and you need a really solid group to get quick kills on him. The problem is ice of course: They feel it’s too much to keep up with, and they’re right. You need to see what other options are available and decide if there’s anything better for what you’re doing though, and if it’s worth the time and effort. (I really despise that dungeon to this day. Guides, Pets, Spells, Quests, Bosses, Creatures, NPCs, Crafting, Gardening and more! I personally do not have the time to spend countless hours farming. It’s my opinion. But, Hades gear (and to a certain extreme, Morganthe amulets) ARE the best and the top-level meta. However the KR crafted robes give far more accuracy. Hades. God help me as I plunge into the abyss…). – you have 0 pierce from gear and low crit, they have usually 70+ resist and twice your health I’m life and I’ve been farming hades helm of the abyss and armor of a sorrowful life for months and I still don’t have either one of the pieces of gear. For all the wizards and witches (is that the correct name for a female wizard in Wizard101?) 2 players defeating hades actually also effect the drops. It has stats that simply aren’t available on other amulets, and for that reason it offers an advantage to our Wizards. I don’t feel awkward at all. don stress over it, I mean, I’m still using WW gear and my stats are decent enough but I would love more critical boost. Period.” article, but rather to give you some of the best and recommended setups. These are generally fully leveled, sometimes hardcore players who want the challenge of the hardest bosses and want the most “perfect” gear possible. I think someone needed to say that. What’s your aim or goal? I still used my WW hat and ignore my Unseen and Hades crit hat. Farming is quite annoying at times; there is always those people who leave right next to the end or do the puzzle wrong, or don’t even know how to play. I’m sorry for coming off as a grump, and I hope whoever reads these guides has better skill at PvP than I will ever have. His vow doesn’t allow him to fight, but he does give you a 20% Power Pip Chance boost! If you happen to get it, it’s worth using. I prefer crafted gear as it can give me the stats i want (well, i can pick) and they generally have more resist, which is still important in today’s pvp metagame. Your IP: 94.73.163.242 Even though crafting is quicker than farming, I hope you people do realize that crafted gear lacks pip percentage? You aim for the best when you’re at the point where that’s what makes sense for you. Yep, top duelists sure appear in the utmost of their farming attire. Check out this piece to learn how to make the most of your runs in the Team-Up Kiosk! Required fields are marked *, Our new author, James Nightwraith goes over some tips for farming etiquette in @Wizard101 . imma look at it as a storm wizard. This article will explain why, and offer some advice on becoming a happier Wizard. If you’re defensive, maybe you want a build with Critical Block and good resist, high health and good incoming/outgoing healing rating. Now, I’ve griped on multiple occasions on how the Amulet of Divine Influence and the Walkers of a Sorrowful Life are better than the crafted Azteca boots. • For some reason it just helps getting the gear. Nick originally created Duelist101 and helped the Final Bastion team immensely when getting started. One of them has universal resistance, and that's usually the favorite. The gear, as always, is up to you, the player. The drop rate is almost 0. If you think about it, LIFE MASTER is way better when your in danger and need to heal. Your email address will not be published. So this kinda is wrong farming if good if you don’t wanna farm or buy stuff for it and you can’t even find it. Health: 5000 Rank: Rank 7 Boss School: Myth. Isn’t buying packs also trying to get a drop though? I looked up ways to increase the drop rate, to no avail….it’s kind of disheartening, you know? – crafting xD. It’s just my two cents that hades gear is the best, minus the boots and wand. me and another person where do it together alone in hades. Luckily that’s not true. I have a With my magus ice I farmed for loremaster and winter moon, they’re both awesome and great additions to my deck. Not that I need it but I want the hades hat and robe of torment as an upgrade from my WW considering that death gear has been at an all time low. Click for our guide on all of the Hades’ Gear. For example, if you like to go offensive, you may be suited to a Critical or Damage build. I’ve also never wanted to farm the Aquila secret bosses. I think storm kind of defaults to the “glass cannon” build, so I don’t find that very surprising. And trust me, I compare stats. There’s even a chance for me to get something out of it, so it’s twice as useful But I gotta admit, I’m a lazy farmer. Location: Wizard City>>Aquila>>Mount Olympus. This article is for them, not us. . Nick’s point here isn’t that Hades gear is NOT the best for every setup. There are other options. Your luck might have been worst, cause i got 5x Blade of felled titan. Heavens no. Estimated Reading Time: Darkmoor and Malistaire the Undying in the … And you know what? The drop rate is almost 0. lol no. When you get to hades bump into the storm guy not hades. This doesn't apply to all gear in the game, but certain gear sets only drop for the school you're using. Crafting gear is way easier than farming it. At least you could stop defending mc balance blade, people see that pet in every guide and they’re starting to think it’s a good one. It’s not great, but it’s good enough for me to do quite well. And more specifically, only the defensive robe and hat. Also do the respawn but problem with that is who is going to flee? Because gear in Wizard101 is confusing, and it’s easy to assume that new is better, and it’s hard to ignore the hardcore players when they talk about the “best” gear. (Speaking of luck, just reached Level 90. I hate to necro a super old post, but for all of you farming malistaire right now, this gear is now a need to be competitive in pvp. I still prefer paying with time. While that is some of the more recommended gear, it’s not the needed gear as Nick was trying to say. Thanks duelist. 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