Either way, LOADS of questions are left unasnwered. Tsuji in particular is unimpressed and thinks that Japan has already on the way to its demise. 11 either, but the Ep 4 flashback clearly shows the number plate too. Featured … I mean. ENJOYED, the series. and now like them https://randomc.net/image/Eden%20of%20the%20East/Eden%20of%20the%20East%20-%2011%20-%20Large%2042.jpg i will wait for the movie(s) to come out while gazing at the sky. ( Log Out /  As for the NEETs helping, I think any old person could have used fighter jets to shoot them down. What did you think of the East of Eden ending. XII) does not have to spend ANY of his ‘alotted’ 10bil yen at all as he is using other cash source(s) in a similar situation as II. Close. I guess he realize wiping his memory is pretty effective lol. It says “Ato Taxi,” possibly implying the driver is either Mr. Outside, Selecao #12, or something similar. Because history has repeated itself (and will continue to do so), wouldn’t the notion of choice be an illusion? Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Because Cain’s path is already determined, the “choices” Cain makes are all part of a plan. 225 2 2 gold badges 4 4 silver badges 8 8 bronze badges. Funny. I am intrigued, it looks like healing isekai with main character overcoming emotional scars from previous life, while not sugarcoating…, I hope they won’t go into a really bad anime original ending where it is going to be a major…, I wonder that as well. *sigh*. However, when he finally realizes his dream, he immediately comes back to work with the Trasks, claiming that he had never felt “so damn lonely in my life.”  Lee tries to make his own choice, but he’s bounded by fate to the Trask home. Those two together have the potential to make someone (perhaps a king) almost clairvoyant. Key Idea #2: People are Born Good or Evil. Here’s what I mean: Juiz always says to “continue being a messiah” at the end of her phone calls with Takizawa and the other Seleçao. Small Details You Missed In The Midnight Sky Netflix. Aron is meant to mirror Adam; Caleb is meant to mirror Charles; the relationship between Aron/Caleb and Adam/Charles mirrors that of Abel/Cain. Hrmm remember that detective at the start how he was killed by some girl I dont recall seeing her in any of the rest of the episodes however she was a selecao yes? I honestly thought the old man was mr.outside, and I still think we is. Adam doesn’t have an answer for that, but he tells him he alone can make that choice. Caleb acknowledges his own wickedness explicitly when he proclaims that he is full of meanness. By giving his phone to Saki, she might guide him to become the savior Japan needs instead of the recovery his memories. I’ll wait for the movies, one on Careless Monday and the other one on january, Well, in spite of giving his phone away to Saki after weeping his memory, I really don’t think Akira did so to push the responsibility on her, since *first thing first* it’s simply impossible: she is not the selected messiah and can’t order around Juiz… I hate reading books but if this story came out as a series of proper books i’d definetly buy them to read. And all of this makes Eden of the East all the more disappointing. Some bias events could possibly be that he really cares for Saki and wouldn’t want to put her first; maybe he wanted to be able to put everyone first, sort of like the Spiderman split between Mary Jane and Aunt May when he’s forced to choose between the two when the Goblin throws them in the air in the movie. “Timshel” is used here as advice. Despite the implict definitaion that Akira should be the winner since he was not killed, he may be simply listed as a special case by Mr Outside and a new participant added or the number 9 spot blanked out. What was he doing in Washington in the first place, The Second movie has been green lighted so two movies will come out no matter what, Also how did Saki know everything that happened on careless monday when at the institute they didn’t tell Tak anything when she was listening to the conversation and before they got the information from pants. whyd he have to do that? Eden of the East (Higashi no eden) -- Confused by Ending. That woman was the detective’s wife, whom he cheated on. The first half of East of Eden follows the Trask family and its two brothers Adam and Charles. […]. Let’s hope that the movies will be better (doubt it). A person would usually go corrupt if they have to carry memories that contradict their original goal ala Kira from Death Note and like the detective who said he initially started the game with justice in mind, but ended up in a bloody mess. nice semi-finish. it was cool that they showed her https://randomc.net/image/Eden%20of%20the%20East/Eden%20of%20the%20East%20-%2011%20-%20Large%2030.jpg again, asking to be saved haha cute? i) He mind wiped himself to be “reborn”, carrying no baggage not bias into his new role as king. These similarities render the same lessons of Genesis extremely relevant: people and their interactions conform to preexisting archetypes. If you look closely around 1:39 (I think) into the episode, you can see the side of the taxi that the old man is driving. Regarding a previous poster’s question, Saki knew everything as a time skip was used last episode during the explaination of the betrayal of Akira but she heard everything. She killed him out of betrayal. yeah, i was expecting number x to die too.. maybe hell die in one of the movies. Adam knows that Caleb is doomed to live a mean life, full of guilt over his brother, but that doesn’t mean that he should succumb to that fact. Well, what the hell does that mean, anyways? Two popular translations is that God tells Cain that he “shall” or “must” prevail over sin and evil. What is happening now has happened before and will happen again. The entire anime was a very interesting social/political commentary of Japan as now. That is definately one of my suspicions, possibly that Akira may have wiped his memory, but not all of it. I wonder why he got his memory wiped again… cuz it really seemed like he did. East of Eden エデンの東 . I wonder if the animators felt a bit queer while making this episode… so many naked men haha. He did spend most of his money. Akira knows that by wiping his memory, he can entrust his ‘reborn’ self to do the right thing, as opposed to risking doing the wrong thing if he kept his memories. And if so why? All over Japan, the attack missiles get shot down while still in the air, and many of the Selecao watch it happen, as does Itazu who had survived. This verb hints that free will is not available to Cain. Thx, My interepretion of the ending (which i liked) iv) The NEETs uploading to eden was to show Akira’s belief that social outcasts are not worthless and will show their potential when circumstances force them. Perfect for acing essays, tests, and quizzes, as well as for writing lesson plans. The first verses of chapter 2 explain the seventh day, in which God rested from His work. Akira knows Saki believes in what he’s trying to do. Quite short…. She and Micchon want Hirasawa to examine the data that Itazu sent, but he has more immediate problems right now because of all the NEETs who have arrived. While it’s fresh on my mind though, I found it interesting that Itazu ended up surviving since I didn’t see any reason to revive him after seemingly killing him, unless they wanted to reduce the body count or (more likely) unless he’s going to play a role in the movies. He has no more money, so I suppose he has no use for the phone, but doesn’t that mean he’ll have to meet the Supporter (if he really does exist/is Mr.Outside), @V This leads to me wonder if the “real Juiz” is referring to Saki. Will investicate later. Did Akira erase his memories again? If you look at the first episode when he had his memory wipe, and this episode, the same thing happens. TO MAKE US WATCH THE MOVIE! It may very well be that the 20k NEETs may regain the confidence to once again paricipate in society and this was the reason why Akira gathered them on the roof. No matter what the evidence looks like at any time, she always believes in Takizawa and that he is really doing the right thing. I’ve enjoyed how semi-realistic the series has been. Final Thoughts: The series isn’t over, so these aren’t truly final thoughts on it, but more a reflection on what we’ve seen so far. You Must, You Shall, You May: The Ending of East of Eden John Steinbeck’s East of Eden is a book that heaps allegory upon allegory, metaphor upon metaphor, and symbol upon symbol. every one’s been going on about it but I couldn’t see anything…why was he asking “damn there’s no golden ring”, because for a sec i almost thought he was about to propose to saki…, Your email address will not be published. Adam suffers a stroke after hearing of Aron's death, and Cal feels overwhelmed with guilt. The NEETs give chase, and Hirasawa has to throw the laptop to Oosugi before he gets caught. And I hope it’s not something ridiculous like data about how to be a king being transferred directly into his mind. Is there another movie out that I missed? These men are not exceptionally bright nor are they skilled workers. So Ryou, Daiju, and Jintaro’s plot has been foiled, but there are still questions to answer. @lang0 Eden of the East (Higashi no eden) -- Confused by Ending. I don´t understand why people are saying it. I just hope he falls in love with Saki all over again (hoping he was to begin with). Well…hopefully we don’t have to wait too long for them to come to DVD. According to the Genesis story of the creation and fall of man, out of Eden, east of Israel rivers flowed to the four corners of the world.Similar stories in Sumerian records indicate that an earthly paradise theme belonged to the mythology of the ancient Middle East.. It’s been shown in history that there were benevolent Monarchs but most would end up becoming corrupted while looking for absolute power. I was wondering if that was going to show up. well at least a great episode. They end up in the amusement park area above the mall, separated from all the NEETs, and Akira instructs the NEETs to write on the Eden of the East site their ideas for shooting down the missiles. Just finished watching Eden of the Easy Movie 2: Paradise Lost. enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications and new posts. Even if i can get a cam raw i’m still gunna watch the movies. Akira is still going to be subjected to the way everyone treats him; if they all knew him as a kind person that cared for everyone – or atleast tried to, he will believe it and follow the path that he created as a Selecao. But why? @hm Claiming that he’s launching another missile attack, Akira instructs everyone to go to the mall’s rooftop if they want to survive. And just when you think Eden of the East will finally end nicely, it gives you everything but a good or happy ending. Adam pleads with Caleb to make his own choice and to be his own man, but East of Eden is full of examples of characters without free will. Because it’s so important to understanding Eden of the East, I’ll explain a bit about current Japanese social issues. Click to email this to a friend (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Tumblr (Opens in new window), You Must, You Shall, You May: The Ending of East of Eden, http://becominggodlymaidens.blogspot.com/2012/05/timshel.html, East of Eden Read-Along — Final #estellaproject | Bay State Reader's Advisory. Even Cain killing Abel has been part of a plan — he has no free will. Akira Takizawa wakes up naked outside the White House with no memories. if what Mononobe (no.I) said about Ato Saizou is correct (and the terminal cancer based death false), Mr. Outside (or No. While he can make these intermediate choices (like temporarily leaves the family), his ultimate destiny lies in serving Adam Trask. The episode was so nice. asked Dec 12 '13 at 21:08. Key Idea #3: Timshel! No, it doesn´t. Cathy may be a more clear example of Steinbeck siding with the “nature” side of the Nature/Nurture debate. Library. He’s got a gun in one hand, a cell phone in the other, and doesn’t know if he’s a good guy or one of the worst. what’s wrong with wrapping it up in 16 – 18 eps or so? I realize he had something of a blank look on his face, but my first impression was that Juiz implanted knowledge (about being a king?) The Atou Taxi that he was driving could be a tip-off. And I couldn’t agree with you more, it IS incredibly fun. But he gave his phone to Saki. The Hamiltons are a poor family living on dry, barren land, but Adam Trask and his wife Cathy Trask are rich from inheritance and live on a fertile and rich piece of land with a large quantity of water available. In Daniel’s prophecy of “the time of the end” beginning in Daniel 11:35, a king is pictured in the Mediterranean area who engages in a military conflict with the king of the south, the king of the north, and a military force from the east. All in all, I would have been driven half insane if there hadn’t been 2 movies coming up relatively soon aha~ Is he actually someone important, like Mr. Outside? speculation – (and his taxi side job unnoticable to other Selecaos)…, @All those who think he restored his memories Ah well. I can’t be arsed to point out more flaws because I am way too disappointed with this series. Takizawa tells Juiz “there are plenty of smart guys in the world, but no one willing to take that role [the role of the King]. How is it possible for number II and number XII havent used their money yet and not be killed? I doubt he’d throw himself into the thick of things or get too involved. Then we see in episode 11 Saki and Micchon are being transported to a safe location via a taxi driven by Mr. Outside himself. Not possible. TOMORROW. I think it could have been much better if they went for 26 eps. I am guessing that Akira is again betting on his ‘new’ self to take the role of a responsible king to lead Japan. And 50 dollars says that juiz is the supporter in the next movie. Hrmm remember that detective at the start how he was killed by some girl I dont recall seeing her in any of the rest of the episodes however was she a selecao? Share Share Tweet Email. But why? On her way back to the shopping mall, Saki calls Hirasawa and explains what she knows about Akira. Living is a continuous fight to break free of these deterministic chains, and whether we choose to deny this fact or succumb to it, well, that is completely up to us. They even added twists by having Akira ask Juiz to make him the king of Japan and by showing that Akira requested something else that is probably connected to the noise coming from his cell phone at the end (another memory wipe perhaps), so this was essentially a cliffhanger. The character Lee discovers the real verb ought to read as “may.”  Doesn’t seem like such a difference on the first pass, but it is an incredibly important one. 5:53. Eden of the East: You lack the love story! (Only reasons i started crying.). It’s not like she can use it since it’s locked UNLESS that’s why they kept Pantsu alive in the first place, which is a possibility. My guess was that the taxi driver was Atou Saizou/Mr.Outside/No.12/The Supporter. Not sure if this was mentioned yet or not, but I think that Akira UNWIPED his memory, rather than rewiping it…, Never mind, it was mentioned like…1 comment before me…. I don’t quite get why Akira whipped his memory a 2nd time, or the need for it. the society computer program does not predict at 100% accuracy as pantsu survived when it predicted he died a hero. I don’t really think Akira needed to wipe his memory for this but he did it once before for pretty much the same reason. It isn’t heard anywhere else throughout the season. Now I have to find ways to watch the movies as well. Although that sound is probably specific to the memory wipe, so I don’t think he can “transfer” his Selacao status, seeing as he would not only endanger Saki (which he would never do on purpose), and it would sure be an easy way to shove off the responsibilities on someone else for any of the Selacao who don’t want to “lose” this game. 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